Racism against white people in South Africa

• I am going to South Africa in a couple of months and after what I heard from friends, I'm starting to get really scared. According to what they tell me, there is a movement of racism towards white people going on, and some of my friends are even scared of going into black neighborhoods (besides the usual fear of crime of course). Does anybody have any experience with this?

  17 May 2007, 06:42 Nathalie

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• Da Mata24

  Could we please have a translation , with proper punctual english ?.You know Capital letters where appropriate , commers and full stops , it is like trying to read bulletts flying out of a machine gun barrel.
  ARE you educated , millions of peaple are reading this the world over , so write our language properly or F*** OFF!.

  British Bulldog 07 Dec 2008, 09:12 - Report

• Blacks

  Blacks or browns,off whites or off blacks ,how about off white black with a dash of yellow (thats chinese not jaundiced).
  Or are we looking at a jaundiced world , I don't know , all peaple are racist in some form or another , some are more extreem than others , some don't like others religon , some religons ok violence , some are so peaceful its a wonder they get out of bed in the morning , some want to kill for reasons of history , some for gain , some for loss , some for love and some for pure hate.
  Why not laugh? , laugh at the past or the present , if man is to evolve then we must arrest the feelings of what ever in your past is wrong .Queen Victoria said "History is the science studying mans mistakes over time."
  Well boys and girls , and others (those that bat for whatever side) strikes me that we as a race have a choice , either live together in peace , or get the hell away from each other as far as possible , its the human condition , or are we just animals that can make things and think , well its up to you.

  The Oracle 07 Dec 2008, 09:37 - Report

• A message of peace

  Look at what is going on in Zimbabwe , look at yourselves , read these tracts , some speak of hate , others of hope . The cradle of mankind was Africa , whatever our sub-species , tribes ,what do I see - diotribes on mass extermination , why? , for greed , revenge , listen I tell you , this world is on the brink , the current siuation from the world economy will effect us all , no matter where you're from or who you support , soon there will be no big people , no mass employment .The wealth of nations has been frittered away on pointless civil war , freedoms have been erroded to the point of stagnation , those in power want you to be divided against yourselves , because while your thinking about tribalisum , they're thinking about how to keep you repressed , what do think all the meetings by world leaders are for . They are trying to stitch us all up , they don't want you to be independant , that's what globalisation means , the few to control the many , as for SA , from what I read on this site , OK send all the white people back to europe , but will it be any better with out them , suggestion look above your northan border and take note , how many so called war vetrans have rearly made good , and are they dying of disease as well.

  Peaceful Man 13 Dec 2008, 10:01 - Report

• A question.

  I watch Insidingo and Generations and other S.African movies I am a African American I have but one questions for my S.African bruthas and sistas why are white people still in your country they just don't look like they fit when I watch these shows there invaders nothing more. I don't get this. Show them the door all of them. The old the babies the blind crippled and crazy.

  Observer 18 Dec 2008, 05:18 - Report

• All you foreigners, you try living like that for 20 years, see what you attitude is then

  I agree with one of the posts further up the page; I am a South African expat living abroad. I left after taking two 9mm rounds, one in my leg, the other in my side, AFTER giving up my phone and laptop. He laughed and told me to “gaan haal jou boere boeties, ek skiet hulle ook”. It means something to the effect of “go call your white Afrikaans farmer brothers, I’ll shoot them too”, which for me BEING ENGLISH and not a “boer” was the most offensive part of it all. Would you believe the most ironic part? I was working as an adult literacy teacher in an impoverished part of the SA just outside the city in which I lived, where the students were taught for free, out of my own time and effort, for which I was not paid. The man who shot me was related to one of my students. I wonder how he knew that I had such things to steal? He got bail on a charge of assault with a deadly weapon. He has yet to be dealt with almost a year later; my stolen items were never returned. I have been mugged many times at the point of various weapons, one of those a screw driver (laugh), my house has been broken into, my car has been stolen and retrieved through a PRIVATE security company... the list goes on.
  
  Getting back to my original point; it is not the people who create these problems, it is the government alone who is responsible. There would be no crime or racism if the police were paid enough and trained properly to enforce the law, if corruption in public services or government was dealt with seriously. If there was a decent education system that taught people the skills to make honest money, adequate housing, a mass sterilisation program to deal with the population boom, and supervised government spending, and if government stopped making a show of dealing with drugs by pursuing impoverished marijuana growers as opposed to dealing with hardcore drugs such as crystal meth and heroin.
  
  The current African National Communist party was the worst thing to ever happen to SA, Apartheid included. I am of the opinion that a revolutionary party should never lead a country; there is just too much hate. And I know what you all are thinking. No, no, no, it's African National Congress. Well here is a short history lesson for you boet; they swapped it in the early 90's for "African National Congress" as they were voted in democratically. Pathetic; this so called government of hatred mongering illiterates can't even stick to their own ideals; how could it be expected to have dedication to yours? Aside from the obvious ones in the public spotlight, many of the people governing our country have not even passed high school; some haven’t even BEEN to high school. How on earth can a government be trusted to take on complex tasks when most of its working force is barely literate?
  
  The people I feel the worst for are those that voted in the ANC in ‘94 and are still waiting for change. The rich black guys in SA were always quite well off, at least better off than me. But they are a tiny minority. There are millions of poverty stricken black people who just got screwed over into a worse position than they began with; the ANC has had ten years to do a job and all they seem to have been able to do is fool the world into thinking that South Africa is some sort of model for reform. HA! The idea is laughable; even the tourism adverts for SA give it away. “South Africa, Alive with Possibility” Sure boet, a lump of coal has “possibility” too; if you squash it long and hard enough it’ll turn into a diamond... not very likely though.
  
  The ANC fuels racial tensions with impressionable weaklings as pawns, like the ANC Youth League for instance who fear reprisal so little that they claim on national TV that they will KILL for the ANC. This ANCYL, whose counsel comprises of nothing more than a bunch of spoilt, drunkard rich kids who know nothing about struggle or hardship, and even less about apartheid. Most of these idiots have never even seen the dreaded yellow squad car of the 70's and 80's let alone been a victim of any kind of racism. I'd be surprised if any of them had even bothered to have a decent conversation with a white person.
  
  These are the people that the South African population should be angry with. If you take nothing but this simple question from this post, think about this: We pay up to 45% personal tax back home; what do you get in return? Where is that money going? BILLIONS of rands of your money that just goes "poof" with some left over to make it seem like they are spending it on something honest. I’ll tell you where it goes; off shore accounts, big parties, “travel expenses”, expensive cars and gargantuan houses, these are to name but a few.
  
  I got sick and tired of it all, I had to leave. I was 9 years old when Apartheid ended. Up until my teens I had very little understanding of racism; it made no sense to me. Now I think I have at least a rudimental understanding. It is comprised of mostly greed, a bit of anger and a dash of ignorance. I still don't quite understand the ‘why’ behind it all, but I do know is that it has hurt me when I had no part in it to begin with. I gave, and gave, and gave, and all I have to show for it is a dodgy leg and an inability to sleep in my own house, even abroad in my sleepy little town, without waking up every ten minutes when a twig snaps, or a bush rustles outside my bedroom window. I hope that one day all of those rich, pompous, illiterate, power-hungry communists who took my beloved country away from me are hung by the neck until dead. Then maybe I could return and teach their children how to act like human beings.

  disillusioned expat 19 Dec 2008, 04:15 - Report

• A real view from a real young, white South African male

  http://www.peoplespress.co.za/index.php/politics/local/the-currently-disadvantaged.html
  
  A rather elegantly versed view on the topic by someone actually affected.

  J. Irvine 19 Dec 2008, 11:54 - Report

• grow up sum of u

  fokin ell som of u lot r fokin sadd...
  evry1 is human just diff colours.,..
  it is not nature that determines a persons personality and actions..it is nurture...

  GOD 19 Dec 2008, 06:50 - Report

• Response to a question

  What I want Observer (18 Dec) to explain is who are his S African bruthas and sistas? He says that he is an African American and I still am totally confused by this terminology - surely you are either African or American! I am a white woman who was born in South Africa and therefore I am African. I was born here and this is my country and I am proud call myself a South African and also of the fact that I have white and black bruthas and sistas. Maybe Observer can tell me I door I should be shown! My father was born in SA of Scottish decent and my mother was born in USA of English decent, but I have no inclination to even visit these countries. So maybe Observer and I along with billions of other people who ethnically are living on other continents due to circumstances in the past should find an uninhabited planet that we can populate without any talk of which country in which one belongs! I am absolutely horrified by some of the twisted and hate filled comments that I have read on this site.

  PROUDLY SOUTH AFRICAN 22 Dec 2008, 09:39 - Report

• Response to a question

  What I meant to say was "people who do not ethnically belong but find themselves living on other continents".
  
  I hope that Nathalie didn't let some of the bigots' responses deter her from visiting a wonderful country!!

  PROUDLY SOUTH AFRICAN 22 Dec 2008, 09:51 - Report

• Racism 2008

  It is ironic to hear Whites complain about racism. Where were you when the shoe was on the other foot. People shouldn't be judged by the color of their skin. However, a system was built in South Africa that was design to benefit one race over the other, predicated on the myth of white superiority. Don't deny your history. Now the challenge is to move forward as a country, learn to live and work together and above all else, Whites need to shed their superiority complex. Your are living in a new day......Good Luck!!!!

  G. Elemore 24 Dec 2008, 08:28 - Report

• Am shocked at the ignorance of posers like G. Elmore

  What is ironic G.Elmore, is that you muse over white people complaining about racism, and claim that white people are somehow predisposed to a superiority complex, and then in the next breath say that people should not be judged by the colour of their skin... or is it your opinion that the white race been reduced to less than human?
  
  What the white race has been reduced to is one castrated by years of apologising for racism that is seen across the board world wide. Castrated to a point where even saying "black person" is deemed racist. On the other hand it is perfectly fine for a white person to be assumed predisposed to racism; that's ok: "white epople deserve it". Well I for one refuse to accept that notion. I am 23 years old and had NOTHING to do with Apartheid. In a perfect world all you old racist folk would just keel over and let the faster, smarter, and integrated lot take the reins.
  
  This self same racism is seen between many differing ethnic groups. Even African vs African. Take a look at the Tutsis/Hutu ethnic cleansig atrocity; white people are not the only ones to blame, and are not the only race guilty of these crimes. ALL OF MANKIND is racist, always has been, from the dawn of time... even in the bible. Jews/ Gentiles; a racist situation from the same bible by which many of the holier-than-thou white "non-racists" from abroad, claim to take their noble intents and inexplicable need to 'correct' the evil white South Africans.
  
  So to you G. Elmore and others sharing this ridiculous viewpoint; get your facts straight before forcing people to listen to your well-groomed, popular history nonsense.

  Just ignore them; eventually they'll die 26 Dec 2008, 10:20 - Report

• Political Correctness

  " I never met a nice South African "

  Spitting Image 27 Dec 2008, 10:56 - Report

• Chris Randles

  Why don't you go back to the USA and leave us in SA ? , In USA you can be a new kind of coconut like your new president.

  Black mans black 28 Dec 2008, 05:53 - Report

• Screw PCness

  "I never met a nice South African" How many South Africans have you actually met? You are a tit in my opinion; SA is just like any other place. There are nice people, and then there are people like you...

  Spitting lameage 29 Dec 2008, 12:27 - Report

• unfair to white people and unfair to your Country

  The problem is of course blacks in South Africa are going to love this. I've heard since they have to hire primarily blacks for jobs and jobs they arent qualified for that all the big businesses are all in trouble. Encouraging black people not to study and just to pass them are not going to make that a great Country. There is crime and bad decisions being made because blacks are held accountable. They arent being taught whats wrong and whats right and when you have teachers and schools and jobs that hire just because your black that isnt right. I know white people who have moved from there. They say how the electricity gets shut down everyday. How banks are failing. Then again with our new president I'm sure he'll be bailing you guys out pretty soon. To me I don't know why blacks arent insulted and mad that teachers have to pass them just because they are black. Does your government or president whoever is in charge think blacks arent capable of passing classes and getting jobs on their own?

  Hannah 01 Jan 2009, 04:42 - Report

• Afrikaners oppressed coloureds

  The Afrikaners are in NO position to complain about BEE or affirmative action they only have a right to be angry about crime and the farm murders. When they ruled South Africa they oppressed ALL non white people not just the indigenous Africans
  
  Under aparthied these EUROPEAN Afrikaners would have classified me a so called 'coloured',they never regarded the mixed race South Africans as their equals which is they did mot condemn the nationlist government for it's disgusting treatment of the mixed race coloureds, none of Afrikaners spoke out and said the oppression of the so called coloureds was wrong nor show the coloureds any sympathy it was like the feelings of the mixed south Africans did not matter to them becuase they believed only white people should have full political rights now I am sorry if this makes some EUROPEAN Afrikaners uncomfortable but the truth is the truth which is why I find it hard to sympathise with the Afrikaners now.
  
  Afrikaner should remember that becuase of them coloured suffered a great deal.

  Mixed Zimbabwean 02 Jan 2009, 06:05 - Report

• Blacks hate whites in every country

  I am from the states and i have to say that blacks will always hate whites. I grew up in both worlds such as big city life and small town life. In my small town blacks are treated very very good but the blacks still hate the whites. My town was 95% white and some how a black person would win prom king or queen. Now as i live in the city blacks treat myself and every one else i know like crap. Blacks were always welcome in my houses growing up but for some weird reason the black familys would never let any of the white kids their homes. Now i am not putting all blacks and whites in the same groups b/cs we all know every person is different. But i must say blacks need to change before the recism stops.

  Peace for all 09 Jan 2009, 09:04 - Report

• sorry for the spelling

  i wrote that real fast

  peace for all 09 Jan 2009, 09:19 - Report

• The Obvious

  Of course murder against whites has gone up...why should it go down ? White South Africans have lived off exploiting the true black Africans for too long. Rainbow nations ?? What an insult to the word Rainbow. I hate all white south Africans because their historical exisitance has survived only through the stained blood of the innocent men, women and children.......If they feel uncomfortable, scared it's a small reward for the years their filthy pig skin has insulted humanity. I will do my best to make those who are here feel uncomfortable and least they forget their nazis past.....I will remind them. They are an insult to the white race and I am embarassed when my fellow Britains say there is change....

  Kenwood 12 Jan 2009, 11:10 - Report

• Black racists.

  My black friend told me he was worried the other day when his friends told him how they are going to murder all whites when Mandela dies after World Cup 2010.
  
  Let's see what the blacks will do without us whites in the country. 99.99% of rapists are black and 99.99% murderers are black. Now why is that so? Why murder a fellow human being. They are animals.
  
  I am leaving for Australia soon with my beautiful wife. I HATE YOU BASTARDS. G-D IS WATCHING YOU AND YOU WILL GET WHAT IS COMING TO YOU. YOU ARE ALL GOING TO HELL YOU DAMN RACISTS.
  
  AND STAY OUT OF IT AMERICANS. YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS LIKE TO BE MURDERED, RAPED, ETC. ETC.
  
  I used to give out 10000 per year to black donations / funds. I was so against apartheid. Now I am paying the price. But I won't donate a cent to any black person on the streets. If you drive past, also please don't give a cent to a black person. Just tell them: Ask for Zuma for money.

  William Kent 13 Jan 2009, 02:39 - Report

• Hannah

  If our bank's are failing please explaing the following observation by the International Monetary Fund!!!
  
  South Africa's financial system is fundamentally sound, well capitalized and well regulated, the International Monetary Fund (IMF) reports, with the country's banks and insurance companies enjoying good profitability, capitalization levels and reserves.
  
  According to the report, South Africa has a sophisticated, diversified financial system "supported by an elaborate legal and financial infrastructure and a generally effective regulatory framework."
  
  Contrary to what you have been told big businesses are not in trouble and our electricity does not get shut down everyday! We had some problems earlier last year for a few weeks with our electricity.
  
  Where in heaven's name do you get your information? It might be wise to research your comments before posting them on any site, and don't believe what everyone else tells you without checking things out yourself.
  
  I do not deny that we have problems but show me one country that is a Utopia.

  PROUDLY SOUTH AFRICAN 13 Jan 2009, 03:38 - Report

• Sad Commentary

  Some of the silly comments posted herein, helps to prove that SA will continue to struggle with the race issue. Hopefully the young educated people will have the courage, skill and desire to work dilligently to help move SA forward. Within the domain of race, it is sad but true, you may as well give up on the old bigots. They are many years behind in their ways of thinking, as their phychological hang-ups are too deeply entrenched for them to change

  Rodger 13 Jan 2009, 10:58 - Report

• Smell the roses all ye illiterate

  I still can't understand the comments surrounding "when white people ruled over SA". That was a very long time ago; and for those of you that forgot, de Klerk released Nelson Mandela from prison of his own choosing... not the other way around. Let me also remind you that de Klerk was NOT supported by government in his descision to do this. Is he still just a racist white man? What if he were black and released Nelson? The age old arguements about "the white did it to us" does not apply anymore. All of the white tyranical leaders are gone; BEE saw to that. Now we're all living under the opression of the ANC; colour regardless.

  Hark the Herald politician sings 14 Jan 2009, 01:13 - Report

• education

  Your friends are allussional. White or black in Sourh african are not so different. You may have unfortunate situation whereby you meet a sick black person or a sick white person. White people in South are still in very high positions and are still going to stay like that for a very long time. There is no such a thing as favouring blacks over whites in schools. Schools are for everybody there now. anyway in my opinion you will never have any proper answer here until you go there and find out yourself with out all the crap i read in this forum.
  south Africa is a democratic country if anyone doubtt that men she/he ant looking!!

  Nomimi 14 Jan 2009, 02:55 - Report

• Ignorant American

  Trust an american to assume all black people hate whites that is utter nonsense, how pathetic to say every black person in every country is anti white I find Americans to be really ignorant sometimes.
  
  Ok the Afrikaners may have built a strong, prosperous nation though their hard work and skills I give them credit for that.
  
  However they also oppressed, subjugated and exploited all the non Europeans of South Africa millions suffered terribly under the old regime something many racists tend to ignore, they know NOTHING about apartheid effected non Europeans which is why they trivialise the hurt and pain experienced by all the non Europeans in South Africa. South Africa under aparthied was also a police state where imprisonment without trial, arbitary arrest,torture and murder while in detention were commonplace these facts are also ignored by racists.
  
  Any oppostion to apartheid was ruthlessly and brutally crushed and there was censorship so yes the Afrikaners may have brought their skills and created a prosperous through hard work, and made a stable nation but at the same time they created a racist dictatorship

  Mixed Zimbabwean 17 Jan 2009, 02:56 - Report

• Re: Ignorant American

  Thanks for the pragmatic and trueful message. I, challenge those who disagree with your contention, to please refute it in an intelligent yet forceful way.....The Afrikaners benefited form apartheid for an extended period of time. This evil system caused a great number of them to develop a superiority complex, coupled with an abundance of white privilege. To see this all evaporate before their eyes is a reality that many of them find very hard to face and accept.

  Stompanato 17 Jan 2009, 11:42 - Report

• Everyone has so much to say about Apartheid...

  Would anyone like to comment on the current government in SA? I challenge the next poster to try to explain to me how the ANC is any different from the NP, except for the total lack of control over the police, and obvious lust after corruption. Also somone please explain to me what these "terrible" Apartheid conditions were that are any different to the "wonderful" conditions in SA now. Segregation is still prevalent after 15 years of ANC rule, poverty is at an all time low, employment too. About the only positive I can see is democratic voting (which I am sure is at least augmented in the ANC's favour). Under the table arms deals, SABC media control in favour of the ANC, the leader of the ANC being a convicted rapist, billions of Rands just disappearing from the RDP accounts, the stifling and subsequent "intergration into the SA Police force" of the Scorpoins investigating government corruption, Home Affairs R81m identity theft-and-sale scandal, R141m Abalone trade with Chinese organised crime and it's link to the rising Chrystal Meth addiction rate; 10% of the population using meth, Zimbabwian immigrant slave trade in Jo'burg, second in the world only to Colombia for rape, murder, and assault per capita... if Apartheid was so terrible, I wonder what the history books will have to say about the ANC...

  It's hard to be noble in the face of the facts 20 Jan 2009, 07:31 - Report

• It's hard to be noble in the face of the facts

  It appears you are only concerned with comparing and contrasting the ANC to the previous Government.....Have you ever considered,Apartheid to a certain extent is partially responsible for the existence of the ANC? Who or what else the majority population had to turn to?.....THIS IS NOW HISTORY. The challenge for all of the citizens of good intent, is to work diligently and collectively. Above all else, set aside your racial differences and personal feelings and proceed to make SA a country that realize it's full potential. True democracy will become a reality through a sincere commitment to it. STOP COMPLAINING, AND GET INVOLVED IN THE POLITICAL PROCESS.

  Professor Huebber 21 Jan 2009, 09:07 - Report

• re Prof

  Yes, you have a good point there Professor. I would go as far as to say that Apartheid is completely responsible for the existance of the ANC and it's unfortunate attitude. I just get frustrated at the fact that people concentrate on the past, and don't seem to want to see what is happening right under their noses, and how much more unacceptable the present situation is compared to the Apartheid. Comparing and contrasting is the only way that I know of to make people think. You never know, maybe one oke who has some influence reads that post and says "he has a point" and does something to get the ball rolling... we can only hope I guess

  u21 22 Jan 2009, 11:41 - Report

• progress anyone?

  You reap what you sow, nothing more is true. Real, proper, heartfelt sorry's need to be said and acted upon. If you think differently you aren't thinking right..put yourself in another's position, especially one you think you hate.
  
  In hope for peace and love.

  Domino 24 Jan 2009, 11:18 - Report

• I hear you Mixed Zimbabwean

  To mixed Zimbabwean I am very sorry about the way in which the mixed South Africans were treated by the EUROPEAN Afrikaners as you call them, the Afrikaners should be DEEPLY ashamed of themselves for what they did to S African coloureds how could they have subjugated them in such a horrible manner when the Afrikaners regarded the the coloureds as 'family' where is their sense of guilt. The Afrikaners ignored the fact that the coloureds were in fact HUMAN what gave the Afrikaners the right to oppress them.
  
  The Afrikaners owe the S African coloureds a big apology for oppressing them in such a dispicable and deplorable way.
  
  I too would have been classified'coloured' under apartheid becuase I too have some European blood and I am fair.

  Fair skinned black Canadian woman 25 Jan 2009, 02:38 - Report

• oh why?!

  The world over we live in fear, fear of all thatz new and old alike. Fear of what is dark or light. fear of others, but most of all fear of ourselves. thia fear is the worst, ...what I will find if I just allow myself to open up to caring and love!
  Please don't get up out of your comfort zone of racism, you might just be presented with a life free of anger brought on by fear of yourself!
  The problem in in South Africa, however, is lazyness. People are to lazy to think beyond what apartheid has manacled them into. Too lazy to get over their hate, to lazy to challenge their own acceptance of the myths, they've been indoctrinated with over the years. Myths about not only others, but much more disturbingly, about themselves. So they hate the weaknesses in themselves so much that they live out by criticising others and in turn deny any wrong doing from their side.
  People wake up and smell the potential in our lovely diverse country, and stop sending the message to the world that our country in full of hate and stupid people?!
  I love my country! Proudly South African! Proudly Coulored

  Justus 30 Jan 2009, 08:23 - Report

• shut up you darkies!

  YES there is a ton of racism in this country against whites and you darkies who think otherwise are exactly whats wrong with this country and i hope apartheid starts again!

  i-h8-blacks 01 Feb 2009, 01:09 - Report

• For i-h8-blacks

  yo0 u maddd rasim ii will fuQ u up yo0o u get so0o madddd o00o0o0o u are so0o lucky u dont kno
  becuz if u kno me i will fuQ u Up So0oo0 shit up n give propsz 2 Blacksz..Blacksz are Co0o00l N Awsome N are the shiiT on iiN Dayszz
  SOo0o00o00o0 ShuTTT ^^^^^^^^^^ Piece of Sh*t

  DonT NeeD 2 KnoW ....Blacksz Are COOlll 04 Feb 2009, 01:20 - Report

• separate South Africa from the African continent.

  What I think is SA should be separated from the rest of Africa and just left to drift off to sea. The fact of the matter is so many great people from other African nations died fighting against Apartheid. And now the black South Africans are no better than their previous oppressors, mistreating refugees escaping the problems in Zimbabwe and other African countries to try their luck in South Africa. I understand that South Africans fear for their job security but the imigrants are human beings please give them a chance, and dont lock them up in ANC concentration camp like refugee camps. As for the white South African population, sadly to say out of about 20 especially from the Boer community I have only encountered 2 I could consider as good people. The rest where the most racist inbreed white trash to have ever set foot on this planet. I am a Kenyan of German descent and would never travel to South Africa. Better yet shoot South Africa into outer space.

  Boris 09 Feb 2009, 05:11 - Report

• yes

  ive been there and its not that bad. just be carfull not to be racist then youll get yourself.white girl

  me 20 Feb 2009, 03:07 - Report

• My oppinion of my country

  Im at school still for 2 more years till i graduate and can hopefully start studying for my dream to become a nuclear scientist, here are some of the things standing in my way, 1.My goverment and my school is corrupting the children, i see straight through there lies, there promises of a better futute, the blacks are taking over, i am not racist nor do i mind living among them or with them, they have a problem with me, why should i live under punishment from the mistakes my stupid ancestors made, if we could all stand together someday, and the goverment lifts their stupid racial restrictions, denying me my future in nuclear science, my futute to create the first spacestation, then we will REcreate the AFRICA as whole again, the one who 20 years ago was among the strongest ecomomic countries in the world, we could all live a BETTER life, one where everyone's DREAM IS POSSIBLE!!
  btw the answer box below the replybox is another way of testing every single one of us to test us..

  Wouter 21 Feb 2009, 02:09 - Report

• Sick of interference

  After reading this forum it has occured to me that most of the insults towards Afrikaners are stated by people not even born and raised in South Africa. Whats even stranger is that these individuals are from countries where the concept of apartheid was concieved. The unfortunate thing for the Afrikaner is that the apartheid regime was the last fascist regime to fall. Thats why its got the attention of the whole world. Who are these americans and europeans to stick our noses into it and in detail telling us how kak our culture is, when they were the ones to show us how to oppress cultures, the Afrikaner was mearly led by example.
  
  By the way, the apartheid regime was the only fascist regime to fall without civil war, which shows that we knew we made a mistake...

  ST 25 Feb 2009, 09:51 - Report

• Afrikaner arrogance

  I think blacks have every right to comment on what happened during apartheid that is the problem with Afrikaners they oppressed non Europeans (and the Afrikaners are Europeans) and then get touchy when it is brought up well to bad do these damn Afrikaner people think the non Europeans of south Africa liked being treated less than human and subjugated by them NO most Afrikaners were totally unsympathectic and indiferent to the suffering of non European South Africans during those times and now they complain about being trashed.
  
  Quit complaining for goodness sake.

  Mixed Zimbabwean 03 Mar 2009, 06:51 - Report

• To grow up some of u

  Question ? If someone is natured to be a hate filled , raping murdering bastard , and someone likley to be confused on fathers day , because his / her mother don't know who the father is , and is likley to die of aids because of it , does it matter what colour the person is... .
  Fucking hell if you have read the comments on this site it should be bloody obvious , the message duh is this we (thats human race) have got to sort this out , one way or the other , for good or ill .
  If people believe and know from personal experiance , that such is this and such is that , no amount of fucking nurturing is going to change 1.a congenital idiot or 2.a fucking psycho gone in the brain befor birth 3. someone bent on revenge for one reason or other.
  Your dealing with the human condition here , whether your from today or fucking years in the past , if we can resolve our differences by typing on this site instead of chucking bullets and bombs at each other , thats got to be a good start .
  And yes I've met a good few South Africans all of whom have been friendly .If you can't take a bit of humour watch youtube not the nine aclock news sketch , shows you how much research you've done , and you call me a tit.

  Spitting Image 08 Mar 2009, 10:12 - Report

• take the high road...

  Iam really proud of my African heritage and would not trade it for the world.Iam strongly against racism and wouldnt encourage it for a second.however i must say i feel deeply sorry for all those people who are so consumed in their ignorance and hatred that they call other races dispicable names.all races have equal potential,just different opportunities..thus the neccessity for affirmative action.to all those contributors insulting my wonderful race..i feel sorry you.any person can trade insults but we will chose to TAKE THE HIGH ROAD.to all South Africans subjected to deplorale conditions and insults everyday..keep working hard..it will get better in time.God bless.

  no hard feelings 09 Mar 2009, 08:49 - Report

• Elrey Jones

  There is black on non-black racism and hatred everywhere I look. Study it yourself. Black racists in the USA have killed tens of thousands of whites. Stop welfare and promote and encourage abortion amongst the welfare recipients is a solid start. Welfare enslaves working people and breeds racial hatred. Go anywhere and you'll see this over and over again.

  Elrey Jones 13 Mar 2009, 03:01 - Report

• Racism in south africa

  look i think south africa is good country it has alot of whites , blacks, asians and colourds and all of them can harsh sometimes like in south africa there is a south afriacn white nazi party so just go.

  tommy de van shlig 15 Mar 2009, 04:22 - Report

• WHITE PEOPLE

  SOUTH AFRICA BELONGS TO WHITE PEOPLE. STUPID APARTHEID.
  GO WHITE PEOPLE!!!!!!!

  John 15 Mar 2009, 02:34 - Report

• how bad is bad?

  Taken from To Kill a Mockingbird(a description of how the witnesses view blacks): "all Negroes lie, all Negroes are basically immoral beings, all Negroes are not to be trusted...an assumption one associates with minds of their calibre."
  
  The above quotation is from the speech to the jury, given by the lawyer, Atticus Finch in defence of his (innocent) client, Tom Robinson, a so-called "Negro", in the largely racist Amaerican South.
  
  Bearing in mind that the term "racist" applies to any discrimination against a race by another race, how far would you say Atticus's description of the witnesses' attitudes applies to South Africa today?....i challege you

  SA lover 15 Mar 2009, 08:11 - Report

• Reconcilliation and Repatriation!!

  When the Dutch came to SA, the SA's owned the land and the Dutch brought their bibles. When the Dutch left SA, the Dutch owned the land and the SA's were left clutching their bibles.
  
  As history shows, this is a very common theme with the Europeans and the Nordics. To divide and rule, to rob a nation and people of their resources. When they have taken control, they pit one faction against another disguising who the real enemy is, while providing weapons and artillery to those factions. In effect, their Modus Operandum is to decimate the entire population so that they have unfettered access to those resources. The Europeans have an affinity for greed and excess. They will not be satisfied until they have depleted all of the world's natural resources. America is crumbling!! England is not far behind.
  
  Babylon is falling!! Black people must unite!! Be strong SA and continue to fight the occupation as the muslims are now doing!! We do not want to adopt their ways.

  Chris 23 Mar 2009, 10:15 - Report

• Whites have no idea

  "White people haven't suffered enough in my book. The Whites cause almost every other ethnic group to suffer."
  
  Truer words have never been spoken. Even if non-whites forget about the white evils of the past - slavery, imperialism, the rape and plunder of native women and the country's resources, just look at how the world (in white and non white areas) are today - globally (except S Africa I suppose) there is an air of "White Privilege" - because you are white you get default leader status, that you are automatically seen as rich, knowledgeable, the one to be respected - that isn't intrinsic in just white countries, but EVERYWHERE. Look at India and the Far East, the people there have great respect (foolishly) for them - further cementing the cockiness of white assholes who travel abroad, because they know they'll be seen as some sort of Messiah.
  
  The few whites abroad (again, except S Africa) who suffer racism talk about getting stared at, hearing comments about foreigners when they come into view - honestly, do they think they have it worst? Blacks, Asians, Orientals - every non-white group has suffered far worse at the hands of whites, in America, UK, Europe, Russia, Australia. Personal, in your face, racial taunts, stereotypes, discrimination, difficulty in getting job and housing, unwelcome, hostile looks (and many times, violence) when going into pubs and clubs, vandalism, property damage, arson, pepper spray attacks (where it's illegal in most European countries) just "because it's fun" - I can write a book of incidents.
  
  If the entire non-white population was hostile and violent towards any white person they met, it still wouldn't be enough to make up for the accumulated years of suffering from non-whites, both as minorities in white countries and as majorities as part of a invaded country (Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam)

  Blah 24 Mar 2009, 05:56 - Report

• People pull yourselves together

  Its sad to hear the anger culture diversity brings upon us all. There are so many strong points brought forward by whatever ethnic group you fall under. How does one deal with these problems? Its an issue to be undertaken by a man greater than most and if one man/woman could ever achieve this unity of all nations, if one person could find a solution to dissolve this pain amongst humanity and prosper through this idea we have of democracy(this vague image of a perfect world). It would be their name written in history for all to look up to.
  
  We talk about making a better life for ourselves, we endure hardships to maintain an existance. We as people are misled by government, put under financial pressure by people in higher positions. How does power over humanity find itself being distributed through the few hands that have a say? Are we all to busy or angry at the fact that colour makes the difference.
  
  I myself think that the masses are being lead through false pretence, and therefore power carried through numbers.
  
  We need to make a stand together to make a difference. To make a change for the better as people we need to try and choose our leaders wisely, cause I fear its has nothing to do with colour but rather the individual that takes on the responsibility to lead the way.In saying that I pray we have the strenght to pull together as a nation and appoint the right people to oversee our needs as South Africans.
  
  We should all be proud of where we come from.I am and I assume you reading this are too.

  Hopeful apprentice 28 Mar 2009, 12:37 - Report

• WHITE TRASH

  WHITE PEOPLE ARE JUST AS TRASHY AND RACIST TOO. STUPID HUNKIES THINK THEYRE BETTER THAN EVERYONE. WHAT DO THEY DO???? MAKE US USEFULL PEOPLE WORK FOR THEIR LAZY ASSES.

  dMINoR 01 Apr 2009, 12:34 - Report

• Look from Afar

  I just found this site due to a paper I am submitting in school. I have spent months researching black countries, government, infrastructure, education etc. I must admit It has not been a pretty site.
  But what is very interesting is "white flight" and what happens afterwards when Blacks are left to run their own countries versus other nations. Here in the United States, the undercurrent runs deep with a New Black President, Whites may have initially looked at him with hope, if he could bring the black population a higher standard of living, whites would automatically be upgraded also. But his policies are going to be the downfall of everyone. So Whites are preparing for what may or may not be a race war.

  observer 11 Apr 2009, 12:31 - Report