scN Anja

• 1/ Germany was not capable of resolving this issue (same with "duldung" for asylum seekers) by itself due to public resistance and weak politicians. The German govt had to be forced by the EU (the EU third country nationals directive, about 2003) and also to have proper immigration law (zuwanderungsgesetz) for the first time.
  
  2/If you live in an empty house with no traceable owner for I think 8 years in most countries and probably Germany as well, the house is legally yours. But two generations still on a temporary visa in another country is ridiculous - even if you come from a different culture, even if you are not "integrated." You just can't treat people like that, and you will be forced to behave properly as has now happened.
  
  3/When people are permanent citizens of a country, they get assistance from the government to learn english or change their social attitudes etc because their elite form pressure groups, work in the government etc.
  
  4/"Integration" was replaced by multiculturalism decades ago in many countries. Even in germany, it only means "speaking the german language" not "being just like us". We live in the modern world now in Germany, there is no "us", even a neo-nazi would not be able to define what a "German" is - as they also couldn't do in 1933-1945.

  the australian 06 apr 2009, 05:40 - Rapporteer misbruik

germany sucks